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Speaker rec's for a 210 Sixty Five...?

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Richard
Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 09:43 am:   

Hello!

I just got a 210 Sixty Five, and am in the process of getting its kinks worked out.

One of the things I want to do is replace the speakers. The stock speakers sound muddy to me.

Does anyone have some recommendations? I tend to play clean, or moderately distorted.

Thanks much for any ideas - -

Richard
JaySi
Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 10:50 am:   

Muddy? I would first change the output tubes before the speakers, it should never sound muddy...I have a 210 130 and its all but muddy, I even use a 100 watt B52 all tube HEAD through the music man speaker combo cab for recordings...as for new speakers, check out the new Celestians, they have a few nice new speakers ....just my 1 cents worth...
michael kaus
Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 05:03 am:   

For some reason, the speakers in the 2-10's seem to suck a little bit. I noticed the same thing with mine when I got it-just wasnb't happy. I did however do an overhaul as soon as I got it though with caps, bias adj and new speakers. I put in Weber Cali 10's and haven't looked back. They are great. Don't know what sound you are looking for but they do clean it up and sound great pedaled(?). Mike
Kevin
Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 01:29 pm:   

Hey I was just about to order some Weber Cali 10's for my MM 210-HD130 combo but as I was looking inside the cabinet the speakers have an incredibly tight fit. This amp has one stock musicman speaker in it as well as one eminence replacement that is the same size. The main issue I was concerned about is on the left side of the amp as you're looking at it from the back. One of the speakers only clears one of the transformers by 5/8 of an inch. I was concerned that the cali's would be too deep and would touch the transformer. If this was to happen would it short out anything? I can't imagine that being a good situation. Has anyone actually done what I'm trying to do with this particular combo amp? Any advice on this matter will always be appreciated of course. Steve Kennedy is the man! I love this site...
kmalcolmw
Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 07:18 pm:   

Mike: are the california 10s you recommend Alnico or creamic magnets. Im not up to speed on watt ratings. The california 10 ceramic magnets are rated at 80 watts while te alnicos are 40 I think.Does using 2 rated at 40 equal enough to use in my 210-65 or should I go for the ceramic rated at 80 watts?
michael kaus
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 04:27 am:   

I put ceramics in mine, just because I always like to over rate everything. THey sound great! The stock speakers in the 65's just sound a li ttle flabby to me.
Kevin
Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 06:43 pm:   

I would really appreciate some help on the subject of speaker clearance in my 210-HD130...I just don't want to waiste money on something that someone else has tryed and failed at. see posting above kmalcolmw
It seems most people don't respond to anything I say on this forum..I'm not rude to anyone...I wonder why?
michael kaus
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 04:49 am:   

I haven't noticed you being rude-that's my job! Seriously, the 130 x 2-10's are close in there. I do have Cal 10's in my 65 210 and they fit fine. THey are close to the metal shield behind the tubes though. THis close, they will rattle the tubes a little harder but hey, they sell them. I still get a coup;e of years out of tubes in mine. Mike
kmalcolmw
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 07:41 pm:   

hey kevin: sorry I jumped ahead of you there I apoligize. I wasnt thinking I guess. I ordered the california 10 ceramics for my 210-65 got them today and they fit fine,and really sound great. I don't know if they will handle the higer power of your 130 though. I would email Ted at webervst and ask him, he is very helpful.Thanks to Mike for the weber recs.
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Hubert
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 03:35 pm:   

When I first got my 210-65 it didn't sound all that good. I had Terry do a retube and recab job and now it sounds great. I thought about changing the stock speakers thinking they are getting close to dying, but I think they still have quite a bit of life in them. I began looking at 10" speakers, but find you are limited to Webers, Eminance, Fane, Jensens. So I'm gonna use these until they die. I still need to find 2X12 cab just to have some difference in tone. I'm finding I like the stock 10's especially when I'm playing my MM Stingray I.
Cameron Kinsey (gibson175)
Username: gibson175

Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 02:42 am:   

I have recapped my 210 sixty five and it is a fine sounding amp - when I run it thru another amps' 1 x 12 jensen c12n. I initially had the original pair or alnico musicman 10 speakers reconed etc. They are not good. I was amazed at the difference thru other speakers. I am tossing up between celeston vintage 10s, or eminence ragin cajuns. Anyone used these who can give me feedback?
Mike Kaus (mm210)
Username: mm210

Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 04:05 am:   

I've really wanted to try the cajuns so let me know if you do them. I've got weber cali 10's in mine and they are fine speakers. I'm really just not a "10" kind of guy, I like 12's. I do however like the sound of 10's when I'm recording. Go figure.
Alex H. (alex_h)
Username: alex_h

Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 09:42 am:   

I have also heard nothing but good things about the Emi Ragin' Cajuns. The Eminence Legend series has lower prices and sometimes similar specs. A look at Legend 10's may be worthwhile too. I'd skip the Celestions since IMHO they are priced up due to the name, and are now made in China at the same made-in-England prices.
Chuck Bryden (cbryden)
Username: cbryden

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 06:36 am:   

In my 410HD I installed 2 ragin' cajuns.

They sound good. I recommend them.

Of course, YMMV. But they seem to be a good all around guitar speaker.